Charles Murray recalls how he became interested in political science.

00:15 - 05:54

Did 1960s government programs incentivize destructive behavior amongst America’s poor?

05:54 - 17:58

Murray was an intellectual godfather of the landmark 1996 welfare reform bill. How did it come about?

17:58 - 29:41

What can we know about the human good? How can we advance it? Murray explains.

29:41 - 41:56

Murray and Kristol discuss Murray’s recent book on social decay in America.

41:56 - 48:11

Murray’s book on cognitive ability and success was extraordinarily controversial. Why?

48:11 - 1:07:28

Should we be optimistic about the American future? Murray and Kristol consider where opportunities may lie.

1:07:28 - 1:12:35