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Robert Kagan April 4, 2023 (Episode 238)

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    Chapter 1 : The Interwar Years

    Could the US have shaped an enduring liberal world order after WWI? Why did Wilson’s internationalism fail? Kagan shares his perspective.

    00:15 - 45:06
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    Chapter 2 : The Paradox of American Power

    Kagan argues that Americans have been unwilling to tolerate assaults on the liberal world order—but only when they feel they have no choice.

    45:06 - 1:21:17
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